Showing posts with label Harrisburg. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Harrisburg. Show all posts

Thursday, August 19, 2021

HYPOCRISY WHEN LAUNCH A PRO-HUNTING PROPOSAL OR EXPANSION OF HUNTING OPPORTUNITY….NOT SURE ABOUT THAT….WE ALL BENEFIT

Michael, thanks for your valid inquiry and comment.  As the executive director of Hunters United for Sunday Hunting, I want to take the time to respond accordingly.  First, let me say that you will not be called a “snowflake” or any other derogatory name by myself or persons within HUSH from submitting a valid comment or question.  I also ask that HUSH followers refrain from this practice as well.  We are better than that as sportsmen and women.  

Please do not consider this a ‘call-out’ of you by name either.  Your question and my response can help educate people on why getting full regulatory authority to the Pennsylvania Game Commission as it pertains to Sundays is important.


Question from Michael Rossi, 

I am a hundred percent in favor of full Sunday hunting. However, let me point out a little hypocrisy. Those who argue that the health departments at various levels of government should not "tell you what to do"; I am embarrassed to admit, often include hunters. So, if politicians and public outcry should set health policy, and not health agencies... Why should wildlife agencies and commissions overrule the majority opinion? Because whether you realize it or not, that is what we are doing anytime we launch a pro-hunting proposal or expansion of hunting opportunity. In fact, to make it worse, the antis argue that wildlife is public property, it does not belong only to the hunters, so, according to them, they have a say in how it is regulated. The public land debate is not as clear - hunters certainly have funded a lot of it, but not all of it. However - the existing law about wildlife is clear, it belongs to the collective public, not just the hunters... So, besides calling me a "snowflake" how do you reconcile all that?


Response from HUSH Executive Director, Kevin Askew

Let us keep the discussion on point.   As you well know. The fight to bring hunting on Sunday has never been about a particular species or season. It is not about deer, it is not about specific seasons, it is not about this firearm or the other. It is about the increased opportunity based on the Pennsylvania Game Commissions resource first model and the North American Model of Wildlife Management.  


The Sunday hunting restriction in PA dates back to 1682 and colonial blue laws that were designed to prohibit working or other recreational activities on Sundays. "Whoever does or performs any worldly employment or business whatsoever on the Lord's day, commonly called Sunday, works of necessity and charity only exempted, or uses or practices any game, hunting, shooting, sport or diversion whatsoever on the same day not authorized by law" is guilty, the law stated. https://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20000218sunday5.asp


The last I looked there are no British soldiers on the streets nor is the flag of Britain flying over the capitol in Harrisburg, PA.  It is the 21st Century where we live and exist in a 24-7/365 society of activities and lifestyles.  This includes hunting and shooting sports.


Question - Why should wildlife agencies and commissions overrule the majority opinion?

Response - The PGC process is a fair and open process.  Any individual, hunter or non-hunter, organization, or representative public or private has the ability to participate in the process and address the PGC commissioners and board with any concerns.   The politicians are standing in the way of this by not trusting or changing the Sunday hunting prohibition in Title 34 Game Law.   

There are 480 species of wildlife that the PA Game Commission is charged with managing. We hunt 62 of those 480. In the North American Model of Wildlife Management, hunters who hunt those 62-game species foot the bill for the 480-total species. 


Question -The existing law about wildlife is clear, it belongs to the collective public, not just the hunters?

Response - We currently hunt foxes, coyotes and crows, and the three designated Sundays by the exemption of law; not full regulatory authority.   Two of the three do not adhere to the science-based North American Model of Wildlife management need to be placed in the hands of the subject matter experts. That is the Pennsylvania Game Commission. That is their mission, they have the biologists, trained professionals, and the means to make the best decisions for all 480 species of wildlife that inhabits the commonwealth. 


If politicians and citizens of the commonwealth trust the PGC for 480 species; then why not fully trust them in setting a seven-day per week hunting schedule based on science set biological goals of huntable species?


The PGC is just managing not overruling majority opinion?  A perfect example of this is the semi-automatic rifles for hunting debate.  PGC supports their use.  PA hunters do not.    


Question - The antis argue that wildlife is public property, it does not belong only to the hunters, so, according to them, they have a say in how it is regulated?

Response - Sure they do and are welcome too.  It goes back to the earlier question and comments about participating in the PGC process.  


The PGC manages more non-huntable species than they do huntable.  An example of this is the recent mortality of songbirds.  Do we hunt these birds; certainly not. Do all citizens of the commonwealth benefit and enjoy seeing these species, definitely yes.  Are we as license buying hunters primarily footing the bill for the study and science of figuring out why this is happening in songbirds; the answer is yes.  https://www.media.pa.gov/Pages/game-commission-details.aspx?newsid=493&fbclid=IwAR3KlUMIoAThY-i2U9KEm-I4iJIYMPUxY3pdG303sGRhPQ48GyVaY0XFtjQ


The Pennsylvania Game Commission exists to manage the Commonwealth’s wild birds, wild mammals, and their habitats for current and future generations, a mission it has followed faithfully since 1895. https://www.pgc.pa.gov/InformationResources/MediaReportsSurveys/Documents/2020%20PGC%20Annual%20Legislative%20Report.pdf


The PGC is responsible for regulating per the PA Constitution and The Environmental Rights Amendment, “The people have a right to clean air, pure water, and to the preservation of the natural, scenic, historic, and esthetic values of the environment. Pennsylvania’s public natural resources are the common property of all the people, including generations yet to come. As trustee of these resources, the commonwealth shall conserve and maintain them for the benefit of all the people.” https://www.dcnr.pa.gov/GoodNatured/pages/Article.aspx?post=171


Question - The public land debate is not as clear - hunters certainly have funded a lot of it, but not all of it.

Response - Yes, in PA there are different tracts of land labeled and associated by select agencies for different and overlapping purposes.  But for this discussion let’s keep it to PA Game Lands.  The PGC is clear on what the intended purpose is: “The Game Commission owns and manages more than 1.5 million acres of state game lands throughout the Commonwealth. The primary purpose of these lands is the management of habitat for wildlife and provide opportunities for lawful hunting and trapping. Secondary recreational uses are permitted in accordance with the Game Commission’s regulations.” https://www.pgc.pa.gov/HuntTrap/StateGameLands/Pages/default.aspx


Non-consumptive users are welcome to use the game lands seven days per week.  The only restrictions are on hunters being restricted by politicians on what species and days are allowed to be hunted.  As a whole, hunter-conservationists only want the same opportunity that exists with these non-consumptive users.  


When it comes to hypocrisy there is no better evidence than that of the politicians in the PA Senate and PA House of Representatives who do not hold themselves to the same blue law standards for all legislation as they do for Sunday hunting prohibition.


Tuesday, March 26, 2019

HUSH EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HAROLD DAUB - MESSAGE & CALL TO ACTION -

Message from Executive Director - This is an ALL HANDS ON DECK CALL TO ACTION Sunday Hunting and Senate Bill 147 Supporters,
This is a very critical week and I need your help.  If you truly want to see the prohibition on Sunday hunting lifted in Pennsylvania and Senate Bill 147 move to the next steps, I need you to give 15 minutes of your time today and tomorrow. The Pa. Farm Bureau will be descending on Harrisburg this Wednesday, March 27, 2019. The PFB leadership autocracy has issued talking point directives to be used.  One of the first on the list is Senate Bill 147 and Sunday hunting.  The PFB is requesting when their members speak to legislators on Wednesday they specifically mention opposition to Sunday hunting as well as trespass legislation being part of the discussion on this wildlife conservation issue. The important thing to remember and note as you make calls and speak with State Representatives is Pa. Farm Bureau has been requesting for over 10 years that trespass laws be strengthened. Hence, why it is also important to understand many rank and file members of the PFB support SB 147.  The trespass language contained in Senate Bill 147 is what PFB has been wanting.  But yet, now that it has support and momentum they [PFB leadership] are still not supporting.  Makes no sense. In regards to wildlife management.  Bottom line is Pa. Farm Bureau has no experience or expertise. The Pa. Game Commission is charged by law with the management of the states wildlife not Pa. Farm Bureau. There are very few active farmers that will be at the capitol building.  I have been told the people selected or asked to participate by PFB on Wednesday are mostly legacy farmers, retired farmers and very few active [making a living] PFB farmers.  In talking with PFB active farmer members they will not be attending because of doing what farmers do this time of year - farming.  Many of these active farmers support SB 147. Though we do not know how many PFB members will be at the state capitol on Wednesday we must realize the PFB is once again using deception to bully Pa. legislators by ‘stacking the deck’ so to speak.  It is a fact that Pa. Farm Bureau only represents 22,648 farmers in Pa. the other part of their membership does not count. What we can be assured of is Pa. Farm Bureau to continue to misrepresent itself and intimidate legislators.  Please have no illusion, the PFB autocracy thinks they control the issue of removing the prohibition on Sunday hunting and SB 147. This is an ALL HANDS ON DECK CALL TO ACTION.  We need to make our intentions known and our voices heard starting today on Senate Bill 147.  If we don’t, the only message that will be reverberating in the halls of our state capitol building is that of naysayers. Let’s not let that happen.  We need to “Keep The Needle Moving” make the halls come alive with our message of resounding support for SB 147 and the removal of Sunday hunting prohibition here in Pa. This is why I am asking and need your commitment to making the following calls: First - call your Representative and Senator using these links: FIND YOUR LEGISLATOR - BY PA COUNTY Or https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/home/findyourlegislator/  In addition to recording your support with both of your legislators. I also need you to place a call to all of those who occupy important leadership positions. Senate President Honorable Joseph Scarnati - 717-787-7084 Senate Majority Leader Honorable Jake Corman - 717-787-1377 Senate Minority Leader Honorable Jay Costa - 717-787-7683 Senate Appropriations Majority Chairman Honorable Patrick Browne - 717-787-1349 Senate Appropriations Minority Chairman Honorable Vincent Hughes - 717-787-7112 House Speaker Honorable Mike Turzai - 717-772-9943 House Majority Leader:  Honorable Bryan Cutler - 717-783-6424 House Minority Leader:  Honorable Frank Dermody - 717-787-3566 House Appropriations Committee Majority Chairman Honorable Stan Saylor - 717-783-6426 House Appropriations Committee Minority Chairman Honorable Matthew Bradford - 717-783-1540 House Game & Fish Majority Chairman Honorable Keith Gillespie - 717-705-7167 House Game & Fish Minority Chairman Honorable William Kortz - 717-787-8175 Thank you for your active participation in bringing an end to the ban on Sunday hunting and the upgrade of our trespass laws. It is with your passion and effort that we will be successful in our mission. Sincerely,



Harold Daub, Executive Director, Hunters United for Sunday Hunting P.S. Comment below on the responses you get.







 










LETTER TO PGC COMMISSIONERS - SUNDAYS TO SEASONS IN VIRGINIA ARE BENEFICIAL - NAYSAYER CONCERNS NOT REALIZED

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